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the first two episodes in this great series is somehow categorized as being the 11th episode. please change so that we get the first episode as 1 - Serenity (1) and the second episode as 2 - serenity (2).

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I'm wondering, if it's wrong, or what. It's really strange.

Not only one episode, whole order is wrong.

The episodes are sorted according to their airdates. As they were originally broadcast out of order, that's how it's listed.

If you want to have it changed, you can report it here: https://www.themoviedb.org/talk.

@wonder2wonder said:

The episodes are sorted according to their airdates. As they were originally broadcast out of order, that's how it's listed.

If you want to have it changed, you can report it here: https://www.themoviedb.org/talk.

IIRC the "airdate" order seems set in stone, but there are plans for alternative orders (DVD etc.) at some time in the future.

@wonder2wonder said:

The episodes are sorted according to their airdates. As they were originally broadcast out of order, that's how it's listed.

If you want to have it changed, you can report it here: https://www.themoviedb.org/talk.

This is completely incorrect. Using your logic Star Wars episode 4 should be episode 1 etc., but nobody even think about sort it like this.

@antikk555 said:

This is completely incorrect. Using your logic Star Wars episode 4 should be episode 1 etc., but nobody even think about sort it like this.

It's not @wonder2wonder's logic, it's the site's rules.

https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037

Episodes

Adding New Episodes

Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season).

[snip}

The aired order might also be different from the planned order. Networks sometimes move the episodes around only a few days before the air date or air the wrong episode. They might also decide to report the broadcast of an episode with sensitive content set to air soon after a tragedy.

Honestly, the site's rule is absolutely stupid. It might make sense when there's two random episodes that swapped places when originally airing, but Firefly is a good example of why this rule in the "bible" is terrible. There is no logical reason to have what is actually the first episode be the 11th episode just because the executives at Fox decided not to air the first episode until after everything else in the original run.

If you want airdate order, just sort by airdate. Insisting that episode numbers must be in the same order as airdates is redundant and frustrating. Yes, there can be groups for DVD ordering, but that's just some handwaving to appease people. The default order SHOULD BE the proper order...especially in cases like Firefly and The Transformers where the airdate order is all messed up and watching episodes in airdate order causes significant continuity issues.

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