I have several questions about the data that I contributed to the show (episodes 1&2 of season 1 are released now):
1. About the Regular Cast
In the press material from CBS that was published before the show started, both actress Sarah Steele and actor Justin Bartha were mentioned as being a part of the regular cast. BUT:
-> Sarah Steele (Marissa Gold) is not in episode 1, she's also not credited in the opening credits of episode 1.
-> Justin Bartha (Colin Morrello) is not in episode 1 and 2, he's also not credited in the opening credits of both episodes.
So, what's the rule here - are they "regular cast" or "guest stars"? Do I make my TMDb contributions according to the press material or according to the opening credits in the actual show?
-> I deleted both of them from the season cast, because they're not in every episode - I think that's correct.
-> Moderator David Haller added them again as regular cast and deleted them among the guest stars - I don't think that's correct.
Also: David Haller changed the value "add_to_every_season" for all the people within the "regular cast" from "false" to "true". I don't understand why because there's only 1 season, yet. That doesn't make sense to me.
2. About the Creators of the Show
It turns out that there's a third creator for the show according to the opening credits: Phil Alden Robinson.
But the data field "Created By" is already locked and I can't add him. Can somebody please add Phil Alden Robinson to the creators?
3. About the Runtime of the Show
Every episode of the show has a different runtime: The first one is 49 min, the second is 53 min, and I know that all the others also vary. But I can only add one single runtime per show, not per episode, and it works only with numbers, not text. What should I do?
4. About the Certification of the Show
In articles about the show I found both "TV-MA" and "TV-14" regarding the certification. I have no idea where to look up the official certification - how to find out?
5. Duplicate Backdrop for Episode 2
This is a duplicate of a backdrop for episode 2 that can be deleted:
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/cTQIqtNnrdinCuxpbIpjkVRPVGL.jpg
6. Wrong Backdrops for Episodes 1 & 2
Some of the backdrops that David Haller and I uploaded for the specific episodes 1 and 2 don't belong to these. They are all from the official CBS press material - but after watching the episodes those scenes were not in it. Which means this material is obviously incorrect - what should we do about that? I would delete those incorrect backdrops:
-> From Episode 1:
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/fjPiHmQc6sFLO3RxnHZZTOrxRu6.jpg
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/o63koeBUOtzAJv9cgb7JM07U5JE.jpg
-> From Episode 2:
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/3GJ4kuaSqDJiy2zo68xbvI0XUPP.jpg
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/rKoGtwdBaGrt26GNgqK33wAmKLZ.jpg
I think those are all my questions at the moment. Sorry there are so many ...
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
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Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on February 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM
Reply by Banana
on February 20, 2017 at 4:53 PM
My two cents:
Reply by janar
on February 20, 2017 at 6:03 PM
@alltimemarr Thanks for your answers!
I think that's a good idea - we just wait until all 10 episodes aired and decide then about their status. The infos from CBS are very confusing, and it might even change later (like you wrote regarding the "black guy" of New Girl). And to change it every week and on and on seems to exhausting to me.
Yes, that's what I was thinking. I mean, it's not that much work, but changes between seasons happen quite offen, I think ...
Thanks!
Understood and noted.
I'll look for it in the next press release - if there's gonna be one, that is.
Thanks!
The stills of these scenes are definitely not in those episodes. I guess they are from later episodes; I just wonder why CBS put them as photos for the episodes? Weird ...
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
Reply by janar
on February 20, 2017 at 6:23 PM
@banana_girl Thanks for your two cents!
That's true, I didn't think about the different reasons. On the other hand - regarding TMDb: When someone was promoted, let's say, starting with episode 3, but he wasn't in episodes 1&2 at all - what should I do? When I add him to the season as a regular, his name will automatically appear on every episode, number 1&2 included. When I enter him as a guest star, he's not recognizable as a regular. Both options are factually not completely correct; it's really confusing. On the other hand, at the end, it's not that important, to be honest ...
Yes, I think that's what we should do.
Yes.
It does not? I don't watch much tv - I thought it changes quite often.
Did you find this somewhere on CBS? I think I missed this. But I've read so many about the show, no wonder. I'll change it then ...
By the way: Why can't I see your avatar here? It's always broken when I see you around and in your profile. It also happens to some of the cast/crew names in the data base - they're not properly displayed like your's. Either there's a broken picture or the alternative name description in the circle - but it's every time the same name like your's. I have no idea why this happens ...
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on February 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM
I asked the same question before regarding cast changes in Heroes, and Travis said back then that we'll just add then as guest stars for the time being, and with the next season, they get added to the main cast. The same for characters that leave the series (dying, or otherwise just written out). We keep them as regulars and we'll remove them at the next season. (just not if the character only appeared as a regular in the pilot).
Reply by Banana
on February 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM
@janar72 Honestly, the most important rule is "only season regulars as season regulars". We do our best and don't always agree when it comes to series regular politics, but it's not worth fighting for
IMO it's usually small changes. ex: remove one series regular, add two new ones
I clicked on "Info".
Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on February 21, 2017 at 4:59 AM
When you watch something on TV, the parental guidance/rating is also visible during the program (or well, begin/after commercials), but I don't know about it being a web series. But well, ;D
Reply by lineker
on February 21, 2017 at 7:13 AM
Since you are talking about guest stars vs season regulars, I thought I should make a comment here. I made a change to The Leftovers season 2. Two season regulars only appeared in 3 and 4 episodes respectively (out of 10). So I added them as guest stars instead. I still think the best solution for the future would be to add a feature where you could just click (credit only) for those episodes where season regulars don't appear.
Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on February 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM
wouldn't (uncredited) make it sound like they did appear, but weren't credited? Maybe (no appearance) or (not appearing), but that doesn't sound catchy
Reply by lineker
on February 21, 2017 at 7:20 AM
Yes, I changed my post to amend my mistake!
Reply by janar
on February 21, 2017 at 8:43 AM
@alltimemarr said:
Okay, that makes sense. I will write that down in my notes ...
Reply by janar
on February 21, 2017 at 8:49 AM
@banana_girl said:
Okay. I was under the general impression that it changes a lot, but I don't watch much tv.
Oh, wow, it took me some time to even find the info link now - after you wrote it would be on this page. Thanks!
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
Reply by janar
on February 21, 2017 at 8:52 AM
@alltimemarr said:
Now I remember this from tv movies - you're right. However, in this case, there wasn't something like that. Anyway, "TV-MA" ist correct and I changed it.
EDIT - I forgot: My point 6. at the top was about the images that don't belong to the episodes that already aired. I just saw that you didn't delete them right now - can you keep it that way for a short time? I changed my mind because it's easier to keep them now and - if those scenes pop up in later episode - I can just copy them easier. They can be deleted later; I don't think anyone cares that much about it.
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
Reply by janar
on February 21, 2017 at 9:17 AM
@lineker said:
Thank you!
Yes, such a feature would be great. But I think there's a tiny difference between your example and this case here in this thread. As long as I understand your comment, the two season regulars from "The Leftovers" were still credited in those episodes they didn't appear in. Or not? Which means "(credit only)" makes sense for those 2 - because there was a credit in the opening sequence.
However, regarding Sarah Steele (only episode 1) and Justin Bartha (both episodes 1&2) in "The Good Fight" - they didn't appear in those episodes and they were not credited during the opening sequence. For example - here's the sequence for TGF S1E2 (I can't find the one for TGF S1E1):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gr1lTGUMeg
The name "Justin Bartha" is not in this sequence. Which means "(credit only)" in this specific case wouldn't be the correct term - there is no credit. @alltimemarr suggested the terms "(no appearance)" or "(not appearing)" - but that really doesn't sound very good.
I'll think about it - but this isn't really a big deal in my opinion ...
Best wishes,
janar
"Love [...] is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being." - Ellen Page
Reply by lineker
on February 21, 2017 at 9:22 AM
Yes, I'm following. Wait and see is the only option at this point. That also gives us time to figure something out.