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I'm sick of working on Korean shows right now, so I was looking at some of the long anime series, such as Bleach (https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/30984-bleach). I noticed that when the series is broken up into seasons, each season's episodes are separately numbered. In reality these series don't have true seasons in Japan. Parts or all of the series have been broken up by licensees in other countries for marketing purposes (?) and this somehow got adopted on Wikipedia and other such sites. What is considered "season 14" in the USA may or may not match "season 14" in France or whatever. (I think the USA company Viz abandoned "seasons" for Bleach after like 5 seasons/100-ish episodes, actually).

However, this is not really a big problem except for the interruption in numbering. Regardless of how seasons are (or aren't) broken up in various countries, the episode numbering is always continuous, from (in Bleach's case) 1 to 366. Season 12, Episode 17 is just not useful info because it doesn't correspond to how they're numbered in the real word. If it's not possible to make the numbering continuous, then the seasons need to be removed completely and all episodes lumped into one big season. :(

Also, in regards to Bleach, the posters for every single season are totally inaccurate because they are for the US-released DVD volumes, not the seasons. Volume numbers definitely don't correspond to season numbers. Might as well slap any Bleach picture up there. Haha!

Appreciate any feedback on these items, so I can get accustomed to the way anime is handled here. :)

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Yeah, the poster part... it's a bit odd.. I guess they just want a season poster to have the season number indication on it :/ You're totally right though. Same things happen with One Piece for example.

I'm kind of a big fan of putting all the episodes together, like you say. (Though that would differ greatly with TVDb, and third-party apps/sites, like Trakt, that combine data from both TMDb and TVDb, will face some problems. xd

I really can't deal with how TVDb handles most of the types of shows I watch, which is why I started contributing here instead. However, there I know that despite breaking long anime up into fake seasons, there is still a continuous numbering option available, both for viewing on the website and for scraping. Doesn't seem that's available here(?), which means no one will ever use the data for either viewing or scraping. So it's like, what's the point then? :( There's other things I prefer here, too, such as it being a true database with respect to adding people and having them linked to TV shows, instead of linking actors back to imdb...imdb is absolutely worthless for anything outside English-language mainstream. Sadly Plex won't scrape those guest stars, which leaves me totally screwed but...LOL I just think the overall setup of this site offers much more potential for a quality database! I'd love to scrape my anime collection from here (as well as my Korean shows), so I look forward to learning more about how to handle various situations! :)

Oh can I ask another question? Is the data here supposed to be an exact duplicate of what's at other sites? I'm starting to get that impression? I can't know how things work if I don't ask...

Hi!

What I do, is look for the official sources. Broadcaster, production company, or cinemas even. There I get the overview/description and cast/crew. And when I watch movies/series on Netflix I update/correct/fill (most of) the credits to (nice to have a pause button).

I don't think there's any problem with using an official overview/synopsis for episodes or movies, because they release them for marketing purposes. For person overviews, some people like to copy wikipedia (or it was done automatically, i don't know), but I am not a big fan of that honestly. Most of the times I just put in "[name] is a [Nationality] actress/actor/voice actor/actress/singer/director whatever else. Sometimes a little more if there's something noteworthy about that person ;-)


Unfortunetaly there's no absolute numbering field.. there is the production code field though, so for some series with lots of shuffling of episodes with airing (like Supergirl postphoning an episode after the terrorist/bomb attack in France) that might be a solution (although I'm not too much of a geek with scarping. I do use plex, but I don't think there's anything of a production number listed anywhere..)

I would love for Plex to scrape guest stars too, maybe something to put on the forums there! :)

Is the data here supposed to be an exact duplicate of what's at other sites?

A lot of the base data - not always that good - was mass-imported when the TV-section was introduced. This has caused some problems (duplicate entries, empty credits etc), but was also a big help to give the section a kick-start.

Like Marr says using official sources is a a good starting point. I tend to use trade reviews (Variety, Hollywood reporter) and film festival sites as sources too, comparing the data to IMDb. Yes, for mainstream stuff checking IMDb is always recommended. What I like about them is that they are good at catching incorrect credits. It has saved me a lot of duplicate entries over the years. Outside the mainstream - Asia in particular as you have noticed already - they are not good. However, it could still be a good idea to see what name they are using for a title or an actor and add that one as an alternative. Otherwise another user will just add that title or actor as a duplicate entry later on.

These were the two things that I thought of when I read that particular question.

Thanks, both of you. Very helpful! I, too, don't dig copying Wikipedia for descriptions or bios, as they are often (for Korean actors) bloated with adulation. My descriptions read much like yours, Marr. My aim, at this point, has been to help people distinguish Actor A from Actor B, especially if they have the same name.

Regarding the continuous numbering, it might be worth chewing that one over, as it really does create a problem IMO with long anime. But it's good to know what's currently possible and what's not!

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