I was wondering the same thing. They could theoretically say they take place before Infinity War but I'm guessing SHIELD will at least have to address it.

SHIELD can't not bring it up.. it would totally pull me out of that show if it didn't. They've been following along since the beginning.

There is one inherent problem with this... if Avengers 4 takes place immediately after Avengers 3 in the timeline.. then what does SHIELD do? Because 4 doesn't come out for another year, so they can't have some turn to dust and then just re-appear in a few episodes.

Having said all this, they'll probably just ignore it :(

Even the Netflix series reference 'the incident' (Chitauri invasion), but maybe they'll just say it all takes place between the 1st avengers and 3rd, which is more reasonable since I'm pretty sure the incident is the only thing they reference.

If they don't even let the cast members read the scripts, I assume the TV division is in the dark as to what is going to happen. Must be a tricky situation. However, if they just ignore it, they may as well just give up and say the TV universe is separate to be honest. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

Having said that, it looked from the Cloak and Dagger trailer that that series might reference it. I was also wondering why it took such a long time to come out. There was already a trailer more than a year ago. Maybe that's why?

@A to Z said:

Having said that, it looked from the Cloak and Dagger trailer that that series might reference it. I was also wondering why it took such a long time to come out. There was already a trailer more than a year ago. Maybe that's why?

Why? What happens in the Cloak and Dagger trailer?

@A to Z said:

If they don't even let the cast members read the scripts, I assume the TV division is in the dark as to what is going to happen. Must be a tricky situation. However, if they just ignore it, they may as well just give up and say the TV universe is separate to be honest. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. writers had to be given details of the scripts of Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier back in season one. The team had to work clean-up from all the portals opened in Dark World while the twist of Winter Soldier changed the whole premise of the TV series. I believe there have been passing references to the Sokovia Accords and Captain America being on the run since Civil War, but no real reason to directly tie in any plot between the movies and the TV shows. his season has seemed different, like the TV and movie divisions of Marvel Studios have been strictly forbidden from any communication among the creative teams. (Spoilers from AoS and Infinity War below)

Nothing else in the MCU will make sense at all if Coulson's team isn't successful in returning from the future and preventing the world from being cracked to pieces. Neither the Netflix series nor the movies can go on in that state, so the audience already knows that the team has to be successful in preventing that future from ever happening. Where it gets weird is that the remnants of S.H.I.E.L.D. are now dealing with an alien threat, in the form of the Confederacy, and whatever war they are involved in that is heading toward Earth. At the same time, Thanos is also waging war against the Avengers to collect the infinity stones, and he has just been successful at blinking half of the living beings in the universe out of existence.

Both the flagship TV show and the movies are dealing with world-ending events that would affect all of the characters, but it feels that the studio is now dealing with the TV and movies as two separate universes that are no longer connected. While I've grown to love the team from AoS, the main draw of this show for me is still that it takes place in the same fictional universe as the MCU. It is disappointing if there really is no crossover anymore.

There were more than passing references to Sokovia. I'm pretty sure the superheros that are on the team had to sign them.

Also, SHIELD directly led into Age of Ultron.

And the problem in NY (i.e. Infinity War) was mentioned in the last episode.. so it looks like they're still tied together. Now if characters don't disappear after the snap I'll be pretty pissed. If they didn't mention anything then I would be fine.

on a positive, if half the humans are gone, its an easy way to get rid of "Iron Fist" (who is the weakest Marvel Tv character) BUT another positive is that Coulosn can now return to SHIELD next season since the world (SHIELD) needs him more than ever wit fury and Hill both gone...

The last season of Agents of Shield happened just before Infinity War and just as it was happening, however ended before the snap, and won't be back until after the next Avengers movie (thus avoiding the subject altogether). The other TV shows appear to occur before Infinity War. The timelines for those shows are still generally unknown as they make too little references to the movies (the only thing we know for sure is that they're after the first Avengers Movie), and that Cloak and Dagger happens at the same time as Luke Cage season 2.

@spreerod1538 said:

There were more than passing references to Sokovia. I'm pretty sure the superheros that are on the team had to sign them.

Also, SHIELD directly led into Age of Ultron.

And the problem in NY (i.e. Infinity War) was mentioned in the last episode.. so it looks like they're still tied together. Now if characters don't disappear after the snap I'll be pretty pissed. If they didn't mention anything then I would be fine.

They didn't go into the snap, probably to avoid spoiling a movie that was out at the theater at the time. They did that before when they spoiled the ending of Winter Soldier (2 days into its release), and got a lot of flack about it. They weren't going to make the same mistake twice.

@poit57 said:

Both the flagship TV show and the movies are dealing with world-ending events that would affect all of the characters, but it feels that the studio is now dealing with the TV and movies as two separate universes that are no longer connected. While I've grown to love the team from AoS, the main draw of this show for me is still that it takes place in the same fictional universe as the MCU. It is disappointing if there really is no crossover anymore.

There's actually been over a dozen crossovers since season 1 (I posted a list of crossovers once on IMDB). People just don't seem to acknowledge that fact because the crossovers weren't specifically the Avengers, which I find a bit petty.

I can't remember them all now, but some I do remember from that list off the top of my head:

• Phil Coulson (in every AOS episode)
• Peggy Carter (in a flashback in "Shadows" and "The Things We Bury")
• Nick Fury (in "0-8-4", "The Magical Place", and "Beginning of the End")
• Maria Hill (in "Pilot", "Nothing Personal", "The Dirty Half Dozen")
• Jasper Sitwell (in "The Hub" , "Yes Men", "End Of The Beginning")
• Lady Sif (in "Yes Men", and "Who You Really Are")
• Gideon Malick (in a shitton of episodes from "Among Us Hide..." to "The Team")
• Matthew Ellis (in "Laws of Nature" and "Bouncing Back")
• Dum-Dum Dugan (in a flashback in the episode "Shadows")
• Felix Blake (in "FZZT", "End Of The Beginning", "Watchdogs", "Absolution", and "Ascension")

how do you know cloak and dagger happens at THE same time as luke cage?

@A to Z said:

how do you know cloak and dagger happens at THE same time as luke cage?

In Luke Cage season 2, they mention O'Reilly leaving for New Orleans. So Cloak and Dagger happens around the same time, or just after (O'Reilly is a recent transfer from Harlem in the series. Another cop Connor often references O'Reilly as being new to New Orleans). In Cloak and Dagger, O'Reilly mentions her friend Misty to round out the connection between the two series.

"Callahan is in Maui, and O'Reilly moved to New Orleans. And none of them know you quit." ―Nandi Tyler to Misty Knight (Luke Cage season 2 episode "If It Ain’t Rough, It Ain’t Right")

"I'm from New York. I've seen it before. Did I ever tell you about my friend Misty?" ― O'Reilly to Fuchs (Cloak and Dagger episode "Ghost Stories")

@Innovator said:

@spreerod1538 said:

There were more than passing references to Sokovia. I'm pretty sure the superheros that are on the team had to sign them.

Also, SHIELD directly led into Age of Ultron.

And the problem in NY (i.e. Infinity War) was mentioned in the last episode.. so it looks like they're still tied together. Now if characters don't disappear after the snap I'll be pretty pissed. If they didn't mention anything then I would be fine.

They didn't go into the snap, probably to avoid spoiling a movie that was out at the theater at the time. They did that before when they spoiled the ending of Winter Soldier (2 days into its release), and got a lot of flack about it. They weren't going to make the same mistake twice.

Actually, they avoided it because they weren't sure if the show was coming back and didn't want to end the series with half the characters disappearing and no way to resolve it.

@Innovator said:

The other TV shows appear to occur before Infinity War. The timelines for those shows are still generally unknown as they make too little references to the movies (the only thing we know for sure is that they're after the first Avengers Movie),

It's definitely after Civil War as well because they mentioned the Raft in Jessica Jones season 2. Although you'd think we'd get a scene where Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have to sign the Sokovia Accords.

@poweranimals said:

@Innovator said:

@spreerod1538 said:

There were more than passing references to Sokovia. I'm pretty sure the superheros that are on the team had to sign them.

Also, SHIELD directly led into Age of Ultron.

And the problem in NY (i.e. Infinity War) was mentioned in the last episode.. so it looks like they're still tied together. Now if characters don't disappear after the snap I'll be pretty pissed. If they didn't mention anything then I would be fine.

They didn't go into the snap, probably to avoid spoiling a movie that was out at the theater at the time. They did that before when they spoiled the ending of Winter Soldier (2 days into its release), and got a lot of flack about it. They weren't going to make the same mistake twice.

Actually, they avoided it because they weren't sure if the show was coming back and didn't want to end the series with half the characters disappearing and no way to resolve it.

I don't think they were worried about that, as ABC already tried to cancel them, but Disney forced the station to keep the show on. They weren't going to be canceled until Disney wants to end the show, ABC has no choice on the matter (which pisses the execs there off so they mess with its schedule). Disney isn't going to allow cancelation until another show (specifically to provide free promotion for their movies) is set up to replace it (Inhumans didn't end up being that show probably to everyone's chagrin). With Once Upon a Time also ending, there was no way in hell cancelation of Agents of Shield was going to happen.