@Innovator said:

@jordan77600 said:

@Innovator said:

@Damienracer said:

@Innovator said:

@Damienracer said:

@Innovator said:

@jordan77600 said:

• -Galactus as the main saga villain.

I'm not seeing Galactus as a main saga villain. He's mainly an FF villain, and they can handle him just fine. There's usually no big fight with Galactus as mainly he just stands there and take hits, so he makes a boring Avengers villain, thus you rarely ever see him with the Avengers. Defeating him is always a cerebral thing.

The next small bad that the Avengers will likely go against is likely Kang the Conqueror, who had already been teased on Ant-Man when they showed Chronopolis in the background of the Quantum realm. I say, the ultimate Big Bad will be the Beyonder plus Doctor Doom eventually.

So who do you think will be the next Avengers villain and team? To be honest it's going to be hard to top Thanos.

Secret Wars will be the main event they'll eventually build up to again (after a couple of small bads), which is basically all the Marvel Heroes Vs all the Marvel Villains (refereed by the Beyonder). That will top Thanos. I think they'll probably start with a Young Avengers team with Cassie Lang and Kate Bishop among others, and led by Spider-Man. There may also be a main Avengers team, but I'm not really seeing it at the moment, as there are too little heroes for it at this time. I can see a Hulk and Doctor Strange team-up in the future though.

All the Marvel villains are dead so how will they clash with the superheroes in the secret wars? I'm not really seeing much of a clear vision for the future either in the comics or the big screen.

New and old villains. The Beyonder can just pluck them from all times in the multiverse (yeah he can do that). You may even see a return of Steve Rogers and Tony Stark just for it (though in the Secret Wars series Rhodes was Iron Man). The Beyonder is the ultimate macguffin.

Movies and comics are two different things, i think it will be too hard for screenwriters to handle such a powerful character. Just look how they writed out captain marvel from endgame during 90% of the movie because she was too powerful and they didn't know what to do with her. Even Thanos is incoherent at the end, like he can fight thor, cap and iron man without any stones and win but he gets nearly one shot by thor in infinity war with all the stones

They actually never "fight" the Beyonder in Secret Wars. He's only really a catalyst for it. As I said, he's a macguffin. Doctor Doom is really the bad guy in any Secret Wars. The ultimate attraction of Secret Wars is it's akin to a kid playing with all his action figures. Secret Wars was originally created to sell a toyline with all the Marvel Heroes and Villains for kids to play with. It would be a missed opportunity if Marvel decides not to exploit that again.

How about that: Fantastic Four & Doom introduction with doom as minor villain and galactus as the main villain or phase four, then beyonder appears and secret wars begin during phase five, and finally doom reveals him himself as the main villain during the phase six and gets beaten in a big new/young avengers, F4, Guardians, and Eternals crossover. That'll make a perfect new 10 years cycle.

@jordan77600 said:

@Innovator said:

@jordan77600 said:

@Innovator said:

@Damienracer said:

@Innovator said:

@Damienracer said:

@Innovator said:

@jordan77600 said:

• -Galactus as the main saga villain.

I'm not seeing Galactus as a main saga villain. He's mainly an FF villain, and they can handle him just fine. There's usually no big fight with Galactus as mainly he just stands there and take hits, so he makes a boring Avengers villain, thus you rarely ever see him with the Avengers. Defeating him is always a cerebral thing.

The next small bad that the Avengers will likely go against is likely Kang the Conqueror, who had already been teased on Ant-Man when they showed Chronopolis in the background of the Quantum realm. I say, the ultimate Big Bad will be the Beyonder plus Doctor Doom eventually.

So who do you think will be the next Avengers villain and team? To be honest it's going to be hard to top Thanos.

Secret Wars will be the main event they'll eventually build up to again (after a couple of small bads), which is basically all the Marvel Heroes Vs all the Marvel Villains (refereed by the Beyonder). That will top Thanos. I think they'll probably start with a Young Avengers team with Cassie Lang and Kate Bishop among others, and led by Spider-Man. There may also be a main Avengers team, but I'm not really seeing it at the moment, as there are too little heroes for it at this time. I can see a Hulk and Doctor Strange team-up in the future though.

All the Marvel villains are dead so how will they clash with the superheroes in the secret wars? I'm not really seeing much of a clear vision for the future either in the comics or the big screen.

New and old villains. The Beyonder can just pluck them from all times in the multiverse (yeah he can do that). You may even see a return of Steve Rogers and Tony Stark just for it (though in the Secret Wars series Rhodes was Iron Man). The Beyonder is the ultimate macguffin.

Movies and comics are two different things, i think it will be too hard for screenwriters to handle such a powerful character. Just look how they writed out captain marvel from endgame during 90% of the movie because she was too powerful and they didn't know what to do with her. Even Thanos is incoherent at the end, like he can fight thor, cap and iron man without any stones and win but he gets nearly one shot by thor in infinity war with all the stones

They actually never "fight" the Beyonder in Secret Wars. He's only really a catalyst for it. As I said, he's a macguffin. Doctor Doom is really the bad guy in any Secret Wars. The ultimate attraction of Secret Wars is it's akin to a kid playing with all his action figures. Secret Wars was originally created to sell a toyline with all the Marvel Heroes and Villains for kids to play with. It would be a missed opportunity if Marvel decides not to exploit that again.

How about that: Fantastic Four & Doom introduction with doom as minor villain and galactus as the main villain or phase four, then beyonder appears and secret wars begin during phase five, and finally doom reveals him himself as the main villain during the phase six and gets beaten in a big new/young avengers, F4, Guardians, and Eternals crossover. That'll make a perfect new 10 years cycle.

I can see most of that, just not Galactus as a main villain for the MCU (just a villain for the FF really). Galactus is always hardly a fight in the comics, as he doesn't really do much (he's mainly just a time bomb they have to defuse). Kang the Conqueror is a bigger bad than Galactus (and he was already teased in Ant-Man and the Wasp).