@FunRoyal said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

There is only one good Superman movie and it's Man of Steel.

You are 100% incorrect.

Enjoy watching the Donner cheesfests.

I certainly will continue to enjoy Donner's masterpiece while you have to endure Hack Snyder's abominations.

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

There is only one good Superman movie and it's Man of Steel.

You are 100% incorrect.

Enjoy watching the Donner cheesfests.

I certainly will continue to enjoy Donner's masterpiece while you have to endure Hack Snyder's abominations.

Masterpiece lol, joke of the year! Good one bro!

@FunRoyal said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

There is only one good Superman movie and it's Man of Steel.

You are 100% incorrect.

Enjoy watching the Donner cheesfests.

Whereas SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE is already recognized as an American classic, Snyder's MAN OF STEEL was a misguided shitfest that history will look upon as an embarrassing black mark on the character's long history--pretty much exactly the conclusion already reached by anyone whose opinion is remotely worth of being taken seriously.

@jriddle73 said:

@FunRoyal said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

There is only one good Superman movie and it's Man of Steel.

You are 100% incorrect.

Enjoy watching the Donner cheesfests.

Whereas SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE is already recognized as an American classic, Snyder's MAN OF STEEL was a misguided shitfest that history will look upon as an embarrassing black mark on the character's long history--pretty much exactly the conclusion already reached by anyone whose opinion is remotely worth of being taken seriously.

cool story bro

Man of Steel I think is a misunderstood movie thats trying to show a young Superman searching his way in a realistic manor. The directing is fine, the flashbacks work. The actors all did a good job especially Shannon. The music is beautiful beyond words.

Sure Clark may not be the all knowing, do gooder he is in the Donner movies but why would he? He still has a long way to go to get there. He made mistakes like everyone would. The movie shows him just as fragile and prone to failure as every human being. That's why he is more relatable than the Supes of Reeve to me. The confrontation with Zod is literally his first challange as a hero. It's against a trained fighter. Clark had no training. No knowledge of combat or hand to hand fighting. You can have all the powers but if you have never experienced war, fighting and life and death situations like most of us regular folks you won't be a god of fighting and a prefect hero who makes no mistakes on his first real challenge. He was caught up in an overwhelming situation in a time of great emotional distress and tried to do his best.

Man of Steel is a damn good origin story for Supes. If WB would have let Snyder do his thing and make BvS without all the universe building teaser crap I'm sure it would have been a totally different movie not the mess we got.

The directors cut of BvS is definite improvement on the theatrical cut that is for sure. I like some aspects of the movie but for every good thing there 3 awful ideas. I am a huge Batman fan and I didn't really liked this burned out killer Batman. The whole older Batman idea is a bad one in my opinion if you are trying to make a shared universe. They implied a lot of things from Bats past but if you are not a comic book fan you will miss most of that and only see a psycho who's murdering people left and right. Not to mention excluding a whole lot of really good material I would have liked to see. Now I never was a Superman fan but after seeing Man of Steel I could totally relate to him whereas with Bvs I could not buy into this incarnation of Batman.

@Gus Gorman said:

@FunRoyal said:

There is only one good Superman movie and it's Man of Steel.

You are 100% incorrect.

EDIT: Grammar.

Half of the time acknowledging Zod as this gigantic hacker speaking with the Esperanto tongue somewhere in the Pacific Coast is what scares the fellows trying to track him there.

@FunRoyal said:

Man of Steel I think is a misunderstood movie thats trying to show a young Superman searching his way in a realistic manor.

To the contrary, MoS is perfectly understood; it's just a garbage movie. Snyder doesn't understand Superman and despises the character, so he proceeded to create an all-new one, a stupid, brooding, self-obsessed emo anti-hero who is entirely indifferent to human life, that travesties everything for which Superman stands.

And, of course, it doesn't help matters that MoS is such a profoundly stupid film (and BvS is even worse on that score). I dealt with that years ago: https://cinemarchaeologist.blogspot.com/2015/04/man-of-steel-2013-dumb-darkness.html

Sure Clark may not be the all knowing, do gooder he is in the Donner movies

Never saw the Donner picture, eh? If you're going to talk about it, you really should watch first.

@jriddle73 said:

@FunRoyal said:

Man of Steel I think is a misunderstood movie thats trying to show a young Superman searching his way in a realistic manor.

To the contrary, MoS is perfectly understood; it's just a garbage movie. Snyder doesn't understand Superman and despises the character, so he proceeded to create an all-new one, a stupid, brooding, self-obsessed emo anti-hero who is entirely indifferent to human life, that travesties everything for which Superman stands.

And, of course, it doesn't help matters that MoS is such a profoundly stupid film (and BvS is even worse on that score). I dealt with that years ago: https://cinemarchaeologist.blogspot.com/2015/04/man-of-steel-2013-dumb-darkness.html

Sure Clark may not be the all knowing, do gooder he is in the Donner movies

Never saw the Donner picture, eh? If you're going to talk about it, you really should watch first.

I have seen it like a million years ago but it was a boring cheesefest even as a kid so I have absolutely no intention of revisiting it.

@FunRoyal said:

Man of Steel I think is a misunderstood movie thats trying to show a young Superman searching his way in a realistic manor. The directing is fine, the flashbacks work. The actors all did a good job especially Shannon. The music is beautiful beyond words.

Sure Clark may not be the all knowing, do gooder he is in the Donner movies but why would he? He still has a long way to go to get there. He made mistakes like everyone would. The movie shows him just as fragile and prone to failure as every human being. That's why he is more relatable than the Supes of Reeve to me. The confrontation with Zod is literally his first challange as a hero. It's against a trained fighter. Clark had no training. No knowledge of combat or hand to hand fighting. You can have all the powers but if you have never experienced war, fighting and life and death situations like most of us regular folks you won't be a god of fighting and a prefect hero who makes no mistakes on his first real challenge. He was caught up in an overwhelming situation in a time of great emotional distress and tried to do his best.

Man of Steel is a damn good origin story for Supes. If WB would have let Snyder do his thing and make BvS without all the universe building teaser crap I'm sure it would have been a totally different movie not the mess we got.

Every Snyder movie is some misunderstood masterpiece to some moron. Even When its shallow peace of sh!t. Im sorry, but i don't relate to people who let there dad die in a fucking tornado. Because the his father was paranoid schizophrenia who thinks the government can hurt someone who bullet proof. I also don't relate to Heroes who don't do anything Heroic. And i dont think being inexperienced means you have to be completely incompetent. Tony Stark was inexperienced in the first Iron Man movie. So was Peter in Sam Raimi Spider-man. But were they involved in leveling an entire city and help cause 911 time a million. I don't think so . Frankly the Snyderverse was doomed from the get go. No amount of recuts is going make BVS or Justice League into f##king Godfather like Masterpiece. And no Man of Steel is not the best Superman movie. Because Superman isn't a emo batman clone who spends half his time asking if he should use his power to help people.. The Superman of the comics just f##king dose it and he dose because its the right thing to do. You said you don't like Batman being a killer. Well i don't like Superman being a nihilistic a-hole who only thinks of himself. Man of Steel is the best Superman movie, if you have no understanding what Superman is about.

@jriddle73 said: And, of course, it doesn't help matters that MoS is such a profoundly stupid film (and BvS is even worse on that score). I dealt with that years ago: https://cinemarchaeologist.blogspot.com/2015/04/man-of-steel-2013-dumb-darkness.html

@Nygma-0999 said:

Man of Steel is the best movie, if you have no understanding what Superman is about.

@jriddle73 said:

... Snyder's MAN OF STEEL was a misguided shitfest that history will look upon as an embarrassing black mark on the character's long history--pretty much exactly the conclusion already reached by anyone whose opinion is remotely worth of being taken seriously.

It's like three or more movies shoved into one movies.