Item: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Language: en
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: The original title of this movie is Empire Strikes Back.
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Odpowiedź użytkownika Bubbathegut
15 lutego 2017 o godz. 7:23PM
I thought this was the correct title: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back.
Odpowiedź użytkownika Banana
15 lutego 2017 o godz. 7:46PM
Technically, yes. But after years of reports asking for a title change, we decided (with Travis) to go with the shorter original titles.
Odpowiedź użytkownika Bubbathegut
15 lutego 2017 o godz. 7:53PM
The average fan knows its a Star Wars movie but someone who doesn't anything about SW will not know what TESB refers to.
Odpowiedź użytkownika Banana
15 lutego 2017 o godz. 10:59PM
They can check the alternative titles, the posters, the Star Wars collection, etc. I think it should be fine.
Odpowiedź użytkownika zxian
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 1:51AM
Can this please be re-evaluated? Other series are treated in a different manner (e.g. Star Trek, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc) and it would be useful to maintain a consistent behaviour.
Odpowiedź użytkownika Marr 🇳🇱
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 5:34AM
Travis is king and owner of tmdb. So Travis decided. If you want to change it for your private collection. Override it locally in plex or whatever you use.
Deal with it, or not xD
Odpowiedź użytkownika DJ_Lectr0
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 10:50AM
@alltimemarr
While this is certainly true, TMDB boasts itself by saying it's a community based platform, so IMO it should respect the communities wishes. Especially, if you get a lot of people wanting more consistency. If I wanted a platform run by only one person, I can just go with OMDB or IMDB directly.
I would like to know the reason for going with the original shorter titles. IMO it makes no sense, as pointed out with other series which are much more consistently named.
Odpowiedź użytkownika lineker
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 11:47AM
Funny, that you mention it. Why would a movie database choose to actually use the correct original titles? I would hope that if someone at studio level decided that The Godfather should be called The Godfather: Part I, that we would decide to stick with the correct original title in such a case as well, no matter how much better such a new title would align with the two sequels.
(As for IMDb, they used to carry the correct original titles for all three titles, then decided to change number 2 and 3 (or 5 and 6 if you prefer that way of counting). Star Wars is still called Star Wars though, which is a curious decision.)
Odpowiedź użytkownika ticao2 🇧🇷 pt-BR
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 12:00PM
For my collection I prefer this:
I think it's more consistent.
Odpowiedź użytkownika zxian
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 1:59PM
@lineker It appears that movies are currently keyed on Original Title and not another field such as Title or Studio Title. It doesn't seem like TMDB provides a means aside from Alternative Titles to support a situation like this where the studio or rightsholder wishes to change the title of a given movie. Simply telling users to refer to Alternative Titles as is doesn't seem like a useful option either, as the user/client would need to know which Type to select the studio title from.
(fwiw, IMDB is showing the full title of Star Wars with the episode included, but they make a note of "Star Wars (original title)" below the full title)
Odpowiedź użytkownika lineker
18 lutego 2018 o godz. 2:35PM
I have IMDb set to only show original titles, but what you write must be correct for any other setting I guess.
That is true. IMDb has a unique way of displaying titles. I think the default setting is a simple region check. So if you visit the site from Sweden you will get titles in Swedish and so on. However, should Disney decide that they want a certain title used here, maybe that would be enough to break our rules for a special case. We are already accommodating, in a few rare cases, actors wanting a certain profile picture used or a director wanting a certain poster used for a movie.
(An interesting hypothetical case would be if the original version of a movie - that has been screened theatrically - features an actor that is then removed and replaced in a later version. With support for multiple versions, a feature that is planned, it would be easily resolved of course, but what to do with the current configuration should a rights-holder demand that the later version be represented here?)
Odpowiedź użytkownika MrNobodyWTB
14 marca 2020 o godz. 9:49PM
I don't think it has anything to do with who knows what. I think it's better for consistency in sequential naming in archives.
Instead of having all the star wars movies right next to each other, they're now starting to get thrown everywhere in the movies folder, since in order to have a no-effort meta scrape, you can no longer have sequential names for episodes 1 - 9
Odpowiedź użytkownika allegro.federico@gmail.com
10 kwietnia 2020 o godz. 9:25AM
I also think this decision has no consistency (that is the most important thing when it is up to collections). I would like you to re-think this decision... PLEASE