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The biggest problem with the Disney Wars movies
posted by mcse2000caSTAFFMOD on January 11, 2020 at 6:58 PM
Honestly yes they should have wrote a road map before they started, but the worst thing is Disney doesn't let there directors just do a good movie they prefer to meddle with all of them to put forth a message instead of a decent story. And let us be honest they would never have made Empire Strike Back because of the dark aspects of it. They just don't have the balls to take any risks and that is really the core of there problem this isn't Marvel.
Reply by Nexus71
on January 12, 2020 at 5:38 AM
Wasn't the TLJ dark enough?
Reply by wonder2wonder
on January 12, 2020 at 6:28 AM
As long as it makes over a billion dollars, TPTB will continue making this kind of movies.
Reply by mcse2000ca
on January 12, 2020 at 10:38 AM
what with the your mama jokes and the rest of that garbage?
Reply by Nexus71
on January 13, 2020 at 10:53 PM
I meant "dark" as in it being the worst nightmare for SW fans.
Reply by mcse2000ca
on January 14, 2020 at 1:09 AM
lmao so true so true
Reply by Nexus71
on January 16, 2020 at 3:35 AM
Glad we are on the same page.
Reply by mcse2000ca
on January 16, 2020 at 9:12 AM
How could anyone not be its called taste in quality lol
Reply by AlienFanatic
on January 16, 2020 at 11:22 AM
I read your subsequent comments, so I get your original point.
Treating your comment as a serious one, I'd argue that there's a different type of darkness in Empire vs. TLJ. Empire was only "dark" in that it went a different emotional direction than the first movie. It treated the characters as humans rather than archetypes. It also enhanced the menace of Darth Vader and the Empire and bloodied the Rebels' noses. The ending was exceedingly grim, especially in an age long before the internet and the one year movie development cycle.
TLJ, by contrast, seemed more interested in shredding the original mythology than really crafting a compelling film. Did you ever worry what would happen to Finn, Poe, Rey, or Leia? Other than the endless slow-chase between the First Order and Leia's fleet, was there any tension in any part of the film? The darkest parts are what Johnson did with the Luke character coupled with the idea that the Rebellion was, in the end, worthless.
Maybe it's just that I never found any of the new characters compelling, but as "dark" as TLJ got it was never as grim as when Han was frozen, Luke lost an arm, and Leia futilely chased Fett's Slave 1 with a hand blaster. Instead we got a pissed off Luke who evaporated after straining too hard, a tacked-on romance between two people as lovable as a wet dog, Rey kinda-sorta-not-really training, and Weepy Ben Solo moping around until he kills Gollum. Meh.
Reply by Nexus71
on January 17, 2020 at 6:19 AM
I was serious about TLJ being a horrible movie and that it was far too busy pissing all over the legacy of the OT in stead of telling a good engaging and well structured story.
Reply by skarnak
on February 9, 2020 at 11:49 AM
Of course you were serious, and you were also 100% correct. TLJ IS a horrible movie and does nothing put piss and shit all over the original story and characters of the OT .
Reply by Nexus71
on February 12, 2020 at 7:26 AM
Glad we agree
Reply by Philippe LeMarchand
on February 12, 2020 at 10:04 AM
is the whingeing fans?
Reply by Nexus71
on February 12, 2020 at 10:06 AM
I rather think it is the lack of quality and imagination. Hi Philippe how is life in post Brexit UK?
Reply by mcse2000ca
on February 12, 2020 at 1:12 PM
just curious whats whingeing?
Reply by Philippe LeMarchand
on February 12, 2020 at 1:27 PM
Didn't realise that it was a "rare outside of the UK" colloquialism! "Complaining persistently and in a peevish or irritating way" https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/whinge