Discuss Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

So at the moment there is no real buzz about this movie despite being Star Wars. Tons of crazy theories including time travel. Galaxy's Edge theme park is tanking. The toys are tanking because kids aren't interested in these awful new characters. Rumors that George gets a 25% kickback for original trilogy content which would explain why Disney has gone out of its way to ruin the old characters. I'm sure it'll still make money, just not as much as the first two.

So how much do you think this is going to suck? They're going to photoshop Leia in to it, Finn's probably still going to be a coward lusting after a woman who's more interested in an evil murderer, Poe will attempt to be witty and tell a joke in a tense situation, the Emperor is in there doing something, all of Lando's scenes will probably shot with him sitting down because even he can't be bothered to put in any effort for this, Hux will get a Force wedgie, they probably have to stop another planet killing weapon, there will be some kind of anti-Trump reference, Rey will turn out to be Space-Jesus.

What am I missing?

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Now when people who defended the previous movies now say ROS is bad it is a sign on the Wall.

Scott Mendelson first did write SW fans are to blame for the movie.Somebody asked if could elaborate he Said (quote):"It(ROS) is a bad movie" and continued "At worst I expected ROS to be a well made movie that I didn't like or whose story choices I didn't agree with.I was not expecting a genuinely bad movie with video game plotting,thin characters,weak action and endless exposition with no consequence.Heartbreaking" (end quote)

John Campea of Collider said (qoute)"A lot of people are going to like it but I didn't, " and he continued "I never left the theatre after seeing a Star Wars movie feeling so disapointed"(end quote)

Well if two of the biggest promoters of Disney's Star Wars say ROS is a bad movie after the gala premiere chances are that it is a bad movie also George Lucas who days before the movie premiered criticised J.J. for bringing back Palpatine was NOT INVITED TO ATTEND THE PREMIERE is another sign on the wall.

Face it ROS is a dumpster fire of epic proportions where all the rumours about what was leaked so far have proven to be true by photographs that somebody took at the premiere of the movie Don't say I didn't warn you.

Ruïne Johnson fucked up the storylines set up in TFA with TLJ and because of that The Rise Of Soywalker suffered .

Reading my original post it sounds like I got the "Rey is space jesus" part totally right.

Honestly? I hope people who defend Disney SW love it and go out and buy all the merch because I won't be. I barely see any kids excited or interested in SW these days, only the soy infused male feminists and people whose only interest in the series is how many women and alphabet people are in it, as long as something has plenty of people from those two groups it could be about polishing a dog turd and they will defend it and condemn anyone who doesn't like it as evil.

Meanwhile great sci-fi properties like The Orville, The Expanse and Alita have great female characters and/or alphabet/diverse characters that don't shove their self-righteousness down your throat which is exactly why SJWs don't like those properties.

Star Wars toys are being dumped in landfills grinning

But considering all the reshoots and last minute tinkering my guess the production budget for this one will be substantially higher multiply this by two for promotion etc even if it makes a billion it will still feel like a disaster considering that a movie with a very low budget like The Joker made the same amount

The 100 got off on a bit of a shaky start but it actually became quite good hope the new season will be good.

@Gus Gorman said: d> It amusing to see someone get so worked up about a children's movie.

Amusing and a little sad.

And what makes it a 'children's movie'? It certainly isn't a cartoon, and there is plenty of violence in it. Is it because the movie is set In a 'fictional universe'? Then Peter Jackson's Lord of the Ring trilogy would be children's movies too. I don't think that was the case. I've never seen a child's movie win best picture before. I suggest you stop insulting people. You are the sad one, not me.

And what is wrong anyway with being passionate about something you grew up with? and being upset when it is violated so badly? I was 6 years old when Star Wars A New Hope came out. And compared to the original trilogy, I stand by my opinion a few posts above on how bad this movie will be. They have progressively gotten worse, as Episode 7 was bad, and Episode 8 was much worse. Since the same people are still involved with Episode 9, and all they care about is pushing their stupid SJW agendas and politics down our throats, this movie will be even worse then episode 8

By the way, I am not racist or sexist. I never had a problem with the female character of Ripley from Aliens or Sarah Connor from the original 2 Terminator movies. I had no problem with Captian Janeway or Captain Sisko in their Star Trek series. I can give many more examples. I liked all those characters, because they were actually BELIEVABLE characters and had development to them. that is not true with any of the new characters in the Disney Star Wars Sequels, especially with Ma-REY Sue.

But I expect the only way you will respond to this comment is by insulting me. Showing me exactly how much of an idiot you really are. A giant idiot, to clarify.

I actually recently made a post on the Star Trek Discovery board why I think Aliens is a good example of a good feminist movie without hitting the viewer over the head with it's feminist content.

I'm going to predict 75% suck based upon this review alone:-

Star Wars fan and founder of Legion of Leia Jenna Busch said: “I am absolutely blown away! I’ve never been so satisfied by a film. This is the end of an era and a franchise that has defined my life and this did it justice in a way I didn’t imagine it could. “

(https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-reviews-episode-9-premiere-twitter-reactions-jj-abrams-a9249496.html)

😂 I mean come on that's not even showing a millimetre of constraint, not even pretending to be genuine! So off that alone I've got to guess it will SUCK BIG TIME!

@Nexus71 said:

I actually recently made a post on the Star Trek Discovery board why I think Aliens is a good example of a good feminist movie without hitting the viewer over the head with it's feminist content.

The thing is that "feminist" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone these days. I would argue that Aliens doesn't meet today's definition of a "good feminist movie" because Ripley shows strong maternal instincts and today's feminists pretty much despise motherhood and she also has a man teach her how to use a weapon and these days a man teaching a woman anything is a huge no no, women don't need no man.

Also Vasquez and Drake are clearly friends who have mutual respect for each other, today Drake would be deleted and Hudson would be way more overtly sexist and get punched out by Vasquez, and her and Gorman wouldn't have that final conciliatory moment before they blow themselves up. Also Hicks would probably be deleted and merged with Gorman who is the incompetent hetero white male.

Aliens is simply a well made well written movie with a female lead. There are actually tons of movies like this, primarily in the horror and comedy drama, but the focus these days are on action films because action is primarily consumed by men. One of my favorite movies Kill Bill is often cited as a feminist film even though the Bride is trained by a dude who verbally berates her for being female and the trains her to be the deadliest woman ever, and at no point does she knock a dude out with a single punch or accomplish every goal without getting shot, stabbed, or her ass kicked.

A strong character is not defined by how much or how easily they win but how hard they struggle to get back up after being knocked down.

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

I'm going to predict 75% suck based upon this review alone:-

Star Wars fan and founder of Legion of Leia Jenna Busch said: “I am absolutely blown away! I’ve never been so satisfied by a film. This is the end of an era and a franchise that has defined my life and this did it justice in a way I didn’t imagine it could. “

(https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-reviews-episode-9-premiere-twitter-reactions-jj-abrams-a9249496.html)

😂 I mean come on that's not even showing a millimetre of constraint, not even pretending to be genuine! So off that alone I've got to guess it will SUCK BIG TIME!

HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!!!!!!

A 200 million opening domestic is a possibility. I think its all going to depend on word of mouth. The embargo lifts in two hours so thats when the official reviews will be hitting. Pre ticket sales mean nothing, Solo had huge ticket sales and bombed hard. I think it will open strong but the drop off will be huge in the first week. So far early impressions seem to be mixed. I dont think Disney has won the fans back.

@Gus Gorman said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

I'm going to predict 75% suck based upon this review alone:-

Star Wars fan and founder of Legion of Leia Jenna Busch said: “I am absolutely blown away! I’ve never been so satisfied by a film. This is the end of an era and a franchise that has defined my life and this did it justice in a way I didn’t imagine it could. “

(https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-reviews-episode-9-premiere-twitter-reactions-jj-abrams-a9249496.html)

😂 I mean come on that's not even showing a millimetre of constraint, not even pretending to be genuine! So off that alone I've got to guess it will SUCK BIG TIME!

HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!!!!!!

No dare about it Gus, she has already swallowed down hard on them big bucks! My only disappointment is that it didn't go quite far enough frankly. I'd have liked to have seen a:-

"In all honesty, I was on the verge of filing for divorce but after going to see the event of the decade our love and passion is rekindled and it is ALL thanks to JJ Abrams and his magnificent sexy beast of a picture."

What percentage suck do you think this film will acquire Gus?

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

I'm going to predict 75% suck based upon this review alone:-

Star Wars fan and founder of Legion of Leia Jenna Busch said: “I am absolutely blown away! I’ve never been so satisfied by a film. This is the end of an era and a franchise that has defined my life and this did it justice in a way I didn’t imagine it could. “

(https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-reviews-episode-9-premiere-twitter-reactions-jj-abrams-a9249496.html)

😂 I mean come on that's not even showing a millimetre of constraint, not even pretending to be genuine! So off that alone I've got to guess it will SUCK BIG TIME!

HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!!!!!!

No dare about it Gus, she has already swallowed down hard on them big bucks! My only disappointment is that it didn't go quite far enough frankly. I'd have liked to have seen a:-

"In all honesty, I was on the verge of filing for divorce but after going to see the event of the decade our love and passion is rekindled and it is ALL thanks to JJ Abrams and his magnificent sexy beast of a picture."

What percentage suck do you think this film will acquire Gus?

I go into every movie expecting 100% excellence!

I thought Episode 8 was like a bad porn film... No plot, terrible story telling but visually stunning.

Love Star Wars though and I still enjoy dressing up in white plastic for the 501st.... however, I'm probably just going for the soundtrack and Milennium Falcon visuals at this point but I hope they go out on a high.

I'm absolutely loving The Mandalorian (especially after todays episode 7) Along with Rogue One, it's the best to come from Disney IMO.

@MikeyG said:

I thought Episode 8 was like a bad porn film... No plot, terrible story telling but visually stunning.

Brilliant phrasing there!

@MikeyG said:

Love Star Wars though and I still enjoy dressing up in white plastic for the 501st.... however, I'm probably just going for the soundtrack and Milennium Falcon visuals at this point but I hope they go out on a high.

Oh boy, have I got some bad news for you....

Rotten tomato critic score at 57% ouch! and then we are not talking about the slightly more reliable user score.It is bad and all that was predicted was true in fact from what I heard most of the problems in TROS come from the fact that Ruïne Johnson was so busy with subverting expectations in TLJ that he lost sight of the overall three movie story structure one thing I have to correct Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter not daughter.

One thing what wasn't confirmed yet was whether in this version of the movie the Millennium Falcon is destroyed or not.According to insiders at Lucasfilm there is actually a George Lucas edit of TROS that according to these sources got the best score during the test screenings.What is released is Kathleen Kennedy/Bob Iger edit.

@Nexus71 said:

Rotten tomato critic score at 57% ouch! and then we are not talking about the slightly more reliable user score.It is bad and all that was predicted was true in fact from what I heard most of the problems in TROS come from the fact that Ruïne Johnson was so busy with subverting expectations in TLJ that he lost sight of the overall three movie story structure one thing I have to correct Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter not daughter.

One thing what wasn't confirmed yet was whether in this version of the movie the Millennium Falcon is destroyed or not.According to insiders at Lucasfilm there is actually a George Lucas edit of TROS that according to these sources got the best score during the test screenings.What is released is Kathleen Kennedy/Bob Iher edit.

Yes, rumor is George came up with a unknown Skywalker character. Thats edit scored the best but Kennedy and Igor decided to go with a mash up of the first two edits that scored worse. Bad decision apparently because even the shills are saying how terrible this is.

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